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Topic: [SVN:96] Photo's hit rate always = 0  (Read 11081 times)
« on: May 24, 2007, 09:16:12 pm »
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Anyone has this issue?
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« on: May 29, 2007, 12:41:36 pm »
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This was probably forgotten in the new template system.  I'll code a function for it and then whatever template is running will have to call the function.

What constitutes a hit?  Viewing the thumbnail?  Viewing the display image?  Seeing the display image as part of a slideshow?
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« on: May 29, 2007, 01:46:27 pm »
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Agreed.
Adding further 'what if' aspects to your above:
* were the viewer's eyes open?
* was the viewer's brain in gear/daydreaming?
* viewer answering the phone simultaneously?
* slideview in continuous loop?
* viewer's cat tapping the keyboard progression?
and I won't even start on searchbots;~|
What about ISP, company, network or browser caches?
Hit counters... what do they REALLY mean?
Except using up system resources and adding complexity.
----best wishes, Robert
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« on: May 29, 2007, 02:59:43 pm »
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 Cheesy I agree with you Robert however...  It should work as it is expected functionality.

My questions were for real: what does the community want to see constitute a hit?
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« on: May 29, 2007, 03:13:54 pm »
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A hit is a sentient access attempt to view a particular image.
Thumbnails don't count as images, nor do slideshows.
So whenever a resized or full size image is GET.
----best wishes, Robert
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« on: May 29, 2007, 05:07:43 pm »
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i have the same problem, i install rsgallery2 1.13.1 and i have the same problem with 1.13.0, i never install before.

Before i use expose 4 but i want use rsgallery2.

Thanxs
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« on: May 30, 2007, 10:44:23 am »
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NecatPace, if you read in this post you will realize that there is no current solution.  We need to make one.

There is also some discrepancy on what constitutes a hit, which is what this thread is currently discussing.  Many different templates are being produced now so we need to decide this.
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« on: May 30, 2007, 10:43:22 pm »
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I agree with piran, a hit should be when an original or display picture is requested, not when a thumbnail is shown.

Though this may lead to hits being generated in the various modules, showing unfair hit results.
 eg the most popular image will be continually displayed in the popular module hence unfairly giving it lots of hits... if the module displays  the original or display picture that is. I forget the main functionality of the mod_rsitems as I hacked it aparted to try and acheive what I wanted.
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« on: May 31, 2007, 02:31:35 am »
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Further to Mike's comments cache, particularly systemic cache,
should be considered. My server runs EAccelerator (PHP) and
I would expect the delivery of 'popular' images to be drawn
from systemic cache as opposed to having to hit MySQL again.
So I would not expect an undue multiplication of 'hits'. Having
said that I don't run image boxes of the random, most popular,
most voted for etc and so the issue would not arise here;~)
----best wishes, Robert
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« on: June 06, 2007, 02:03:51 am »
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I just want to confirm this issue.

And I agree with Mike and Piran about "original or display picture request" should be counted as hit
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« on: June 07, 2007, 01:02:45 pm »
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hmm, I don't agree with the original

if someone watches the display image and then opens the original, this shouldn't count as a second hit as it basically is the same image
I say you let the template creator choose, it depends heavily on the template, the highslide JS version of the super clean template that Robert started for example only uses thumbnails and the original files
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« on: June 07, 2007, 01:09:11 pm »
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I would have to agree on letting the individual choose who is writing the template.
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« on: June 07, 2007, 05:46:56 pm »
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very good.  I have added to hit() to the items api.  this will be implemented in 1.14.

In the mean time I'm thinking of hacking a kludge for the 1.13.1.* production series: increase the hit counter whenever imgUtils::getImgDisplay() with $local==false.  That will increase the hit counter every time the URL of the display image is retrieved.
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« on: June 17, 2007, 01:41:02 pm »
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"Display" should count while "Thumbnail" and "Original" should not.
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« on: June 22, 2007, 04:15:33 pm »
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Kludge added to branch 1.13.1 in r91.
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